All right, this is Germane with
greetings to you.
We'd like to begin by giving you a little bit of the history of
Sedona and you could certainly consider it an ancient history.
During the time period that you know of as
Lemuria, the area of Sedona was a series of islands. Now, we would consider this to
be ancient Lemuria. During this period of time, there were many
different types of beings who inhabited your world. There were
some physical beings like yourselves, but there were also many
beings in different dimensional realities, as well.
It was a
very populated area on many different dimensional levels.
Within the cliffs that you see here now, in those ancient days,
there were dwellings, interdimensionally, where many of these
beings lived. Even now, some of those beings still live within
the cliffs. Humans would see them as spirit forms. They would
not seem physical to you. And to them, you are equally alien.
During the latter time of the ancient days of Lemuria, the
civilizations here were peaceful for long periods of time.
toward the end of the Lemurian civilization, the beings were
aware that some type of dramatic change was coming.
The Lemurian Consciousness Has Been Kept Alive
Now the end of the Lemurian civilization occurred at the same
time as the end of the Atlantean civilization, but even though
the physical civilization ended, the consciousness of Lemuria
has never gone. It is kept alive in the earth of your planet so
that you will never forget your ancient past.
All of the
indigenous peoples, the Indians in this area of the world -
United States, South America, Canada - are the memory-carriers
of the Lemurian civilization. They have memories of the ancient
ways locked within them. Even though those memories remain
locked, the energy itself is felt on the planet. One day those
memories will be unlocked.
Toward the end of the Lemurian civilization, the physical beings
were aware that there was going to be a great change in the land
mass. There was a decision that all of the precious knowledge
from Lemuria would somehow be stored on the Earth for later use.
For about 300 years before the end of the Lemurian civilization,
these physical beings began preparing for a cataclysm. They
began different ways of record storage. One thing they did was
to program what they called "seed crystals." These seed crystals
are programmed with the knowledge of ancient Lemuria.
scattered throughout your planet. Some of these crystals were
put in areas of your world that were
rich in crystalline growth.
That way, the seed crystals could program the crystals that
would grow throughout time. This is how you will find crystals
that have knowledge stored within them, for when you place one
crystal in proximity to another, there can be an information
transfer between them.
So that was one way that Lemurian information was preserved.
Another way was by the creation of stories that were documented
in hieroglyphs on walls or on stone tablets. Most of these are
still kept hidden deep within the Earth. Now before the Earth
changes happened, many people volunteered to go deep within the
Earth and wait until the Earth changes had subsided. Once the
Earth changes stabilized, their mission was then to come from
the inner Earth onto the planet and begin seeding this
Many of your Native peoples on Earth have ancient myths that say
they emerged through a hole in the Earth. Several Native
American tribes claim that their beginnings were inside the
Earth and then they came out onto the surface. There are places
on your planet called cenote. They are very, very deep holes
filled with water. Those of you who have been in the Yucatan
have seen one at Chichen Itza.
However, there is another cenote
here, outside of Sedona [Montezuma's Well - below images].
That cenote was one
of the major emergence points for these beings who were
underground and then came out when the Earth changes subsided.
The legends of the Native Americans in this area do say that.
And we would suggest that you take a short visit there, for it
is very rare that one of these emergence points from the inner
Earth is actually seen on the surface.
When the Earth changes subsided and these beings emerged to the
surface, they saw some interesting things. This period of time
we're talking about is the what you call the Great Flood. It was
also the time of the destruction of Atlantis. When they finally
emerged on the surface, they saw that great devastation had
occurred. Many, many humans did not survive.
A lot of the animal
species that were present did not survive either. What many of
the Native peoples did find were groups of beings who were
fighting over territory. In the present day, you would call
those beings extraterrestrials, but in ancient days, those
beings were called gods. They were not necessarily revered as
gods, but they were seen as superior beings.
These gods were
primarily light-skinned, or what you'd call Caucasian. The
native Lemurians had a darker, thicker skin. When these ancient
peoples emerged to the surface and saw these gods fighting, they
knew that it was not time to release the Lemurian information.
They felt that the Lemurian information would be used for power
struggles rather than for peace.
And so, at that point, they
decided that they would hold the knowledge very securely until
they felt that the world would not use it for power struggles.
Native Americans Protect the Ancient Knowledge
The holders of that information now are the
people, as well as Polynesian tribes from the northern and
southern Pacific. And even though this happened so long ago and
they may have forgotten what it is they were protecting, there
is an inner knowingness deep within them, for they are still the
protectors of the Earth. This is something that they know on a
The knowledge they hold will not be released
until they see the white man or the other people beginning to
live in peace. The Native American prophecies reflect this idea.
Even though they don't consciously know that they hold this
information, or that they will help release it, through their
prophecies they give information that talks about when the
knowledge will be needed.
So there will be an automatic process that will occur. When your
Earth begins healing and peace begins to be spread upon your
world, energetically they will begin releasing the memories and
the information. When they see that the healing of the Earth is
beginning and that peace is the primary important thing to
humans, they will then energetically and unconsciously begin
releasing the information. If you were to meet a Native American
on the street and you asked him for the information, he would
not know of what you speak. Very few know what it is that they
are protecting. It is usually passed among the elders in the
tribe and it doesn't go any further.
Now, a question that you may have in your mind is, what is the
nature of this information?
We can tell you with certainty that
it is nothing you don't already know. A lot of the information
simply is universal truth. Some of the information has to do
with ways to control the environment. When we say control the
environment, we do not mean for negative or greedy purposes, but
we are talking about knowledge that will keep the environment
balanced. What is now known as the Indian Rain Dance is a
current version of the ancient knowledge of how to control the
Now you can see that if that type of information went into the
minds of people who would use it for manipulation, it could
cause a lot of damage. The basic idea of the information has to
do with maintaining oneness with the environment. It has to do
with walking as one with the Earth, and it has to do with the
harnessing of Earth's power. The Earth is a powerful being
indeed, more powerful than any of your nuclear reactors. If that
energy were harnessed and used for negative purposes, it would
mean the destruction of your planet, so that knowledge is buried
deep within the Native peoples.
This does not mean that none of you carry it. At this point, the
races and the different peoples on your planet have intermixed
very much. Each of you has some of this knowledge within you.
Some of you have, perhaps, a little bit more than others.
Imagine all this knowledge as one big jigsaw puzzle, and imagine
that each of you has separate pieces of the jigsaw puzzle.
knowledge will be unlocked when all of your pieces come
together. And so, in that sense, there is a built-in safety
mechanism. When you come to places like Sedona, that inner
knowledge you carry gets activated.
Sedona is one of the places that can activate that inner
knowledge strongly. There is one thing that all of you will
realize when you leave Sedona, even if you're not conscious of
it. That one thing is that you will feel more connected to or
more a part of the Earth. You will take a little piece of Sedona
with you when you leave, and it will help you to maintain your
Please know that what you are exposed to in
present-day Native American philosophy is different from that of
the ancient days, but locked deep within the present-day
information is the ancient information. So we ask you to be
conscious of being a living extension of the Earth. Be a part of
the Earth more than you ever have before. When you become part
of the Earth, you resonate at a certain frequency that matches
the Earth's vibration; then a doorway opens between you and the
Earth. When that doorway opens the ancient knowledge is passed
The vibration of the Earth's energy helps to trigger
that knowledge which is within you.
The Doorway Will Open
What we are about to say may sound like a paradox. It was very
important that humans got further and further away from the
land, over time. By getting further away from being one with the
land, you've actually been protecting the ancient information
which can be activated only when you're one with the Earth, for
that's when the doorway opens. But that cycle is now beginning
to come to a close.
More and more people are beginning to feel
drawn to the Earth, and as they do so, they begin matching their
vibrations with those of the Earth. Then the doorway will open.
But the doorway will not open until the planet is ready for the
As that doorway opens, you're going to notice several things.
You're going to notice more and more people feeling inexplicably
drawn to places where there is a lot of land or earth. You may
find more and more people moving from the cities. You're also
going to notice more respect for the Earth. These things are
beginning to happen now. There's a very strong environmental
concern on your planet. You're seeing people be very concerned
about recycling. This is saying that you're now coming back
closer to the Earth. As you begin respecting the Earth more, you
will be feeling inner energy even more strongly, and that door
will start opening a little bit.
You're also going to notice a change in the consciousness of
your people. They will become less focused on their immediate
world and become more focused on the world as a whole. All of
these things are beginning to happen. This is an indication that
you're beginning to open the doorway. You're also going to find
an even stronger interest in Native American studies or
indigenous peoples' studies, let us say. That will be another
way to get your people back to the land.
The growth that you
experience goes into the mass consciousness and helps the whole,
so even though this seems like a personal journey for you, you
are also being of service. When you spend time being close to
the Earth and tell your friends about it, they too will be
touched. Even the person who sits next to you on the subway will
somehow, even in a small way, be benefited. This is how the
union of your planet will be brought about - by each of you
following your own vision quest.
So we would like to take this opportunity to thank each and
every one of you for the gifts that you are giving your Earth
and the mass consciousness. The energy at play is very healing.
When you are hiking and you're laughing and you're banging your
drums and you're having fun, that is tremendously healing.
We would like to take this opportunity to open the discussion
I am really glad to hear what you are saying about reconnecting
to the Earth, opening the doorway to the Earth. I'm overwhelmed
with emotions because I have been receiving visions about the
knowledge. I was meditating when a vision of a green meadow in
America came to my mind. The words "Great Spirit" came to my
mind and the American way in harmony with Mother Nature was in
my mind, too. I feel that I was a Native American Indian in a
The vision of the green field was a way for you to begin
resonating with the Earth. That experience was specifically
orchestrated by your higher self in order to allow you to begin
matching your vibration with the vibration of the Earth. Once
you match your vibration with that of the Earth, you're
naturally going to have recollections of other lives or
experiences when your vibration was matched to the Earth's. So
you were preparing yourself to open up and receive even more
knowledge of your past. These past-life feelings come from your
higher self, from the Earth, from many different places.
We'll suggest an exercise for you. When you're doing ceremony,
close your eyes for a moment and pretend to think of another
time when you did something very similar. Let yourself play
again. What you receive will be the emotion of another life, an
Indian life. Pretend that you can feel the emotion you might
have felt hundreds of years ago.
That's going to help to open
the doors, too.
I read somewhere that there are other types of crystals that
were used as healing crystals in Lemuria. Are those different
from the seed crystals?
A seed crystal is like a computer. The laser wand crystals do
not so much hold data as transform energy. If you were using a
laser wand crystal to heal someone, when you put it over the
person, it would draw out negativity, transmute that negative
energy and give it back to the person as positive, healing
energy. That is one way to use it. Crystals are the types of
tools that will work with you through your imagination, so you
can direct them to do whatever you'd like them to do.
So the seed crystals are totally different from laser crystals?
Well, they have an almost identical molecular structure. The
main difference is on the meta-atomic level, so by sight, you
may not be able to tell the difference, but intuition could tell
Are seed crystals being discovered in the world and are there
many of them?
Sometimes you will go into a crystal shop and find a seed
crystal. They are rare.
Is there any way to distinguish a seed crystal from ordinary
They have a frosty look, and it's hard to tell whether it's on
the surface or if it penetrates all the way through. They look
like frosty ice.
Does this mean that the crystal is not transparent but cloudy
It's not what you would consider cloudy quartz, when you would
think that the inside is cloudy. The seed crystals look almost
like they're cloudy on the surface and they feel different.
I have heard that some ancient civilizations used devices that
would constitute a computer, in present terms. Were they using
seed crystals in order store information?
They were using a similar type of crystal. There are just some
very slight differences. The crystals used as seed crystals are
programmed to give off the information in a different way or on
a different frequency from those used simply for data storage.
When seed crystals release information to other crystals, they
have to release it at a certain frequency - almost like on a
radio dial - so that the other crystals can pick it up and then
incorporate the information. The other crystals operate on a
slightly different frequency.
You're speaking of seed crystals, sometimes available in crystal
shops, that have been seeded by some other consciousness, is
We're speaking of Lemurians, correct?
Yes, but Atlanteans also. There are Atlantean and Lemurian seed
Could these seed crystals that are rather small actually be
seeded with access codes that would allow access to the large
seed crystals that are not yet discovered or are still buried?
In other words, need they contain all the knowledge themselves?
Very good. The answer to that is yes. The smaller seed crystals
can have a certain frequency password that can allow the user to
gain access to the "mainframe," the larger crystals deep within
the Earth that store all the data. One uses the small crystals
to open a doorway to the large crystals, kind of like getting
information out of mainframe databanks by using your personal
computer to go into them with a password.
Now you will like this. The place that you call
these huge, what we would call mainframe, crystals.
I felt a lot of energy around Cathedral Rock, but when I first
went to Bell Rock, I felt a blockage of energy and I felt the
same way yesterday. Is it because I have a problem that I could
not get the energy from Bell Rock?
We would say that Bell Rock is the masculine and Cathedral Rock
represents the feminine. Your feminine energy, or your inner
female, was like a hungry sponge when you went to Cathedral
Rock. It sucked up all of that feminine energy. You've been
traveling for such a long time and using a lot of masculine
energy. The Earth will always give you what you need, so you
were being fed the feminine energy.
Because you've been using so
much of your masculine energy over the past month, your
vibration was matched to Bell Rock so you really didn't notice a
Bell Rock Cathedral Rock
The energy of Bell Rock is best accessed through physical
movement, whereas the energy of the other vortex are best
accessed through meditation.
Very good point, yes. We would agree.
So, it's best to climb Bell Rock.
Some people, like the channel, who just sit on Bell Rock find
the energy too intense. She needs to move in order to move the
I would like to know why the people in this group got together.
Well, you've made journeys similar to this before. It may seem
like somewhat of an esoteric answer, but when you travel with
certain people, the combination of your energies can act as a
key to unlock a door. If all of you think about each other and
the journeys you've taken around the planet with one other
person, you have literally formed a network of your energy
around the planet.
It's as if you have paved a road around the
planet. As the road gets paved and you walk along it, separately
or together, you're going to be performing a lot more service
for the planet than you realize. You've all traveled together as
Native Americans. That's pretty obvious. But when you traveled
together back then, you were seekers. You were young on the
This time, though you may disagree with us, you're not
those young seekers. You are, in this journey, giving back what
was given to you so long ago. You don't have to do anything
specific to accomplish this.
By simply being your natural self
and being joyful, you are returning the gift.
A Life Shared Long Ago
Just to satisfy your curiosity a little bit, we've just gotten
an interesting story to tell you. We perceive a life, perhaps
1,200 years ago in this area, or more accurately in the Grand
Canyon. All of you were Native American and you had gone down
deep within the canyon for your journey and then followed what
is now called the Colorado River. We perceive that you were
The particular tribe that you belonged to allowed
a vision quest to occur when children entered adolescence, but
this type of vision quest you didn't do alone. You did it with
those close to you. And so all of you went on this vision quest.
We see you sitting by a fire. You are sitting up against a wall
in the canyon. The picture is very clear. We see one of you
poking the fire with a stick. You are very emotional. You are
almost crying. You are thanking the Great Spirit for bringing
all of you together. You are feeling that if you died right at
that moment, you would have lived a full, rich life. All of you
agree and it becomes very emotional. It was then that the
gratitude welled up within you so very strongly. All of you
vowed that someday you would give back to the universe that
which was given to you. That's what you're doing now.
But, we'll tell you a little secret. You enjoy doing it so much
that you've done it a couple more times also, in a couple of
different lives. There are two who are not here now who were
there then. Those two are not alive now, but they are serving as
guides for all of you.
Can you tell us who those two people are who are serving as
Do you mean in the form they are in now, as they serve as
guides? First of all, we will say one thing about guides. Their
appearance really doesn't matter to them, so they will take an
appearance that is meaningful for you. We see one of these two
people very clearly. He's taking the form of a very old Indian
man. In the lifetime we were just telling you about, he was
there with you around the fire as a young man.
Later, in that
life, he became Medicine Man. He was with each of you in that
life when you died, and he led you into the other world. So he
lived longer than the rest of you lived. As each of you died, he
communed with your spirits and he made a promise that he would
always be connected to you. You may call him Thunder Bear.
Hopi back then?
We would say that you were a tribe that was connected to the
Hopi, yes. The Hopi tribe has often split itself off into other
groups. But we would say of all the tribes that we could name,
Hopi would be the closest.
I have been intuitively feeling a connection with Lazaris and
Babaji while making this journey. These two entities that you
mention who are serving as spirit guides for this journey, are
they connected to those beings?
There is a connection, but we'd have to describe it. Lazaris is
a group consciousness, like what you call Germane. Even though
you can represent Babaji as a person, we would call the Babaji
consciousness a group, as well. Those two energy consciousnesses
have strong connections to Lemuria, for they were some of the
guiding forces who helped to preserve information. And so, as
you are beginning to access that information, it's very likely
that you would be attracted to Lazaris or Babaji. All of you
will attract to you the entities that you have connections to
from the past.
I would like to know about that particular vision of which you
just spoke. I have a feeling that all the people who joined were
boys. Were there any women or girls who took part in the vision
You are right that they were all male, yes. However, if you
remember, we said there were two who are not here with you now
and we told you about one of them who is manifesting as the old
Indian guide. The other was the twin sister of one of you. She
was a sickly person and she could not go on these types of
outings. At least traditionally, the journeys were either for
all women or all men. But she wanted to be with you very badly.
So she projected herself to you through her consciousness while
you were making the journey. In a sense she was with you, but
not physically. There was a very strong bond between you. And so
she, as the second guide, is appearing to you as a young Indian
woman. You may refer to her as Little Deer. She was called
Little Deer because she was so frail.
When we were walking in the ruins today, you said that there was
a deer in the area, and I would really like to see a deer. I
think that had something to do with this spirit guide.
I would like to place crystals in an area where they would help
to release the ancient knowledge that has been buried.
Well, here's an exercise for you. When all of you were Native
Americans, you were always taught or you always knew to read the
signs of nature to know when it was appropriate to do something.
Tomorrow, take one or two of those crystals with you, and be
aware of the signs from the universe that will tell you when it
is time to bury the crystal. The sign will be manifested in
nature somehow. It might be an intriguing formation of rocks or
it might be the sighting of an animal. Become the Indian that
you are, and you will know where to put it. We sense that you
may come in contact with one or two places that will be
appropriate. We can't give you more information than that, since
it is your vision.
I used to expend a lot of energy trying to force things to
happen, but I found it was not necessary. Just being myself and
being one with the universe is all I need to do. I was really
overwhelmed with emotion when I became aware that I am indeed
Yes, you've just opened that doorway a little further.
Earlier tonight we were telling you how certain people who were
Lemuria volunteered to go underground to wait until the
Earth changes subsided and then emerge. Some people emerged in
Sedona, some in the
Mt. Shasta area of California, some emerged
in the Himalayas, some in Britain, and some in Peru. There is a
very complex series of underground tunnels that run between some
of these areas.
There is an underground tunnel connecting Peru and the
Yes. It is in existence but it is camouflaged.
We often hear a story about
existing underground. Are
these tunnels similar to the idea of Shambhala?
Yes, the Shambhala would be considered, to use an analogy, the
train station that connects all the tunnels.
Are the tunnels completely intact? Are they maintained?
Some of them disintegrated, but there are primary ones that are
still in existence and are maintained by those living underneath
Why were the tunnels built and who built them?
To some degree, they were not built, but naturally formed.
So they are like natural, connecting underground caverns?
Yes, and to be more specific, when a planet is formed they often
leave connecting points between vortex areas. The best way to
describe this would be as follows. Let's say you have a planet
that's just being formed and it's very hot and it's spinning
rapidly. As the energy of that planet begins to be formed,
natural vortex areas appear, or energy fields are formed. If a
vortex point forms here, there will always be one on the
opposite side, as well, so those vortex points are energetically
connected. They're connected through the Earth.
So as the planet was forming, the Earth formed around those
vortex points which are natural tunnels leading from one point
to another. When a planet forms, there are nearly always natural
tunnels that connect major energy centers. So they are natural,
yes, but they've been maintained all the time.
If vortex points shift on your planet, then some of the old
tunnels may disintegrate.
But if we go into the belly of the planet, the pressure will
change and the temperature will become hotter. What will the
effect of those conditions be?
You are never meant to go into those tunnels in this vibrational
thinking. When we talk about the journeys you've taken through
the tunnels, we speak of times when you were not of this
frequency. Your frequency was very different. It was more
accelerated. Things like that do not affect an entity who is
more accelerated in his vibration. Also, some of those tunnels
are not as deep as you would think they are. They are probably
only in the mantle part of the Earth and that is about as thick
as the shell of an egg is in relation to the entire egg. It is,
relatively speaking, a very, very thin area.
But that seems contrary to what you said about the tunnels
connecting energy points on the other side of the planet.
Yes, it is often difficult to describe this because it does
entail some interdimensional movement. This will be challenging,
but let me try. It may be a discussion on gravity. Your
perceptions of reality are very much connected to the Earth's
gravitational field. When you change your relationship to the
Earth's gravitational field, you change your perceptions of
As you enter the Earth, you're changing your
relationship to the gravitational field. It becomes much more interdimensional. It's not linear, so if you try to think of it
as linear, as if you'd be going through the very hot center of
the Earth, it wouldn't make sense. But the definitions of time
and space become different when you enter the Earth.
Perhaps you might have heard of
Admiral Byrd, who supposedly
flew his plane into the tunnels of the Earth. He saw so many
things that should not have been there because when he entered
the Earth, he disconnected from the relationship of time and
space as you know them on the surface. So his experiences cannot
be looked at with your perception of reality. It won't "fit."
In a sense, going into the Earth and going out into space are
the same thing. It basically means that you change your
perception of time and space. We hope that was not too
So if an entity could pass through the underground tunnels,
would that entity be a highly evolved being?
Not necessarily. We could say alternate life forms. Their
reality is very different from yours. Different does not
necessarily mean superior. You move through air and fish move
through water in your reality. There are different rules for
different environments. There have been some negatively oriented
groups who have attempted to use these tunnels. The higher your
vibration, the more easily you will be able to access the
tunnels. A more negatively oriented being could not pass from
one point to another.
In all structures that have a shell such as the Earth, the
vortexes will have the most direct relationship with each other
across the crust, not through the center of the Earth. For
instance if you set off a nuclear bomb on one part of the Earth,
the shock waves will travel around the crust and meet on the
other side more quickly than they will travel through the
So the vortexes have their relationship to each other
through the medium of the crust, not through the molten center
of the Earth. Now, I don't want to make an absolute statement,
but the relationship we're talking about that allowed the tunnel
system to be formed occurs through the crust. It is the nature
of a sphere.
I heard that
the energy grid system that we used to have is
changing, that Earth is now forming a new grid system. Is this
Yes, this is so. The journeys that all of you make are helping
to change the grid.
So am I correct in saying that the location of the vortexes will
not change but the location of the grids will change?
First, let's say that in the past the vortex locations have
changed because a lot of it has to do with the tilt of the Earth
on its axis. So it's possible that they can change, but we don't
perceive a high probability that they will unless your Earth
makes a dramatic shift on its axis. The way that the grid is
changing can be explained as follows.
We like to talk about this grid as being like a tapestry that's
wrapped around your planet. Imagine that this tapestry has a
very simple design on it. What is happening is that the tapestry
is going from a simple design to a more complex one, so it's
allowing more of the facets of who all of you are to be seen, or
reflected, in the grid, in the tapestry.
We wish you magnificent dreams this night. Much love to each of
you and good night.