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			by Robert Neil Boyd 
			from
			
			Rialian Website 
			
			  
			
			An interesting new idea has occurred to 
			me while browsing Coxeter's "Regular Polytopes".  
			 
			That is, as is stated in the subject line, the fractal dimension of 
			a hyperdimensional space, or object. If no one has thought of this 
			before, I'll be surprised, but for me, the hyperdimensional fractal 
			is an entirely new concept.  
			 
			This could be the missing piece that might allow for realistic 
			rendering of 3D landscapes. Hyperdimensional fractals appear to have 
			many other interesting properties as well, and may find some 
			interesting applications in the physics, particularly at the 
			interface between 3D and 4D hypervolumes, where the physics already 
			appear to be interesting.  
			
				
				[Saul-Paul Sirag]:
			The hyperdimensional fractal is contained in Mandelbrot's definition 
			of a fractal:  
				
					
					"A fractal will be defined as a set for which the 
			Hausdorf-Besicovitch dimension strictly exceeds the topological 
			dimension."  
					
					(p. 15 of Fractals, Form, Chance, and Dimension, by B.B. 
			Mandelbrot, 1977)  
				 
				
				The Mandelbrot set is a fractal line whose (Hausdorf) dimension is 
			greater than 1. It is embedded in a 2-d space (the Complex 1-d space 
			C). It is generated by iteration of the map (from C to C): 
				 
				
					
					z --> z^2 - a (where z and 
					a are complex numbers). 
					 
				 
				
				An example of a hyperspace fractal is generated by iteration of the 
			Henon map from C^2 to C^2 (i.e. from a 4-d real space to a 4-d real 
			space):  
				
					
					[x, y] --> {x^2 + c - ay, x], assuming 
					a does not equal zero. 
					 
				 
				
				See The Henon Mapping in the Complex Domain by John H. Hubbard (pp. 
			101- 111 of Chaotic Dynamics and Fractals, edited by Michael F. 
			Barnsley and Stephen G. Demko, 1986). 
  Iterations of polynomials in [x, y, z,...] would yield higher 
			dimensional fractals. 
  [Arkadiusz Jadczyk]:
			Indeed. 
			Attractor sets of chaotic dynamical systems are usually "hyperdimensional" 
			fractals or multifractals. 
  Hyperdimensional fractals will typically arise also in quantum 
			systems coupled to classical systems so as to model "simultaneous 
			measurement" of several noncommuting observables. 
  See for instance:
				
				http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/9909085 
			and 
				http://www.cassiopaea.org/quantum_future/chaos.htm 
				
  [R. M. Kiehn]:
			Sirag and Ark have answered your questions about MD fractals. 
				 
			 
			
			Now consider that which follows in reference to minimal surfaces, 
			which are useful to the study of wakes and persistent phenomena in 
			otherwise dissipative media (such as the Falaco Solitons). S. Lie 
			proved that all holomorphic functions generate minimal surfaces, as 
			a complex curve in 4D. Now consider the Mandelbrot generator in 
			terms of the quadratic polynomial and its iterates.  
			
			  
			
			Then at each 
			step of iteration a new minimal surfaces is generated. In the 
			iteration limit the Mandelbrot set is produced. It would appear that 
			the fractal so generated is still a minimal surface!  
			  
			
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