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Male-Female Relationships in Andromedan
Society
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More on the History of the Zentaen
Civilization
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General Queries on Submitted Questions
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Giza Triangular Ratios Related to the Orion Group
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Mathematical Sequences, Synchronicity and Reality Creation
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More on the Nature of the Draconian Civilization
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Hale-Bopp Draconians Might Visit the USA First
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Who's Staffing the Hale-Bopp Complex?
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The Hale-Bopp Complex as Potential Control Scenario
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Hale-Bopp Draconians as Possibly a Rogue Group
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Our Main Sun Is Already Beginning a Pole Shift
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The Hale-Bopp Companion
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Potential Hale-Bopp Tail Debris Impacting Earth
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An Andromedan View of the Nature of the Soul
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The Nature of Nibiru
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Getting Down to Brass Tacks
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Control Factions to Synthesize Racial Problems as Distraction
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The Year of the Turning Point: 1998
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Prejudice and Racism Learned from Extraterrestrial Source
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Attempts to Use Our Own Free Will Against Our Interests
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Opening A Can of Worms: Analysis of "Requests for Help"
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Andromedan Council Will Intervene: Collective Intent Vital
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Concept of the "Rapture" is Psychologically Dysfunctional
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Hypothetical Events Changing Planetary Consciousness
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Most Probable Order of Transformative Events to Come
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Transnational Corporations Now Stuck in Own Mess
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Vissaeus: Creating A New Reality and Different Way of Life
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An Andromedan View of the "Astral Plane"
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An Andromedan View of "Truth" On Earth At This Time
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More on Civilizations in Various Star Systems
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The Nature of Andromedan Music and Composition
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Male-Female Relationships in Zenetaen Society
Val: How would you define and/or characterize the relationship between males
and females in the Zenetaen society?
Alex: How would I characterize it? Now, understand that what I am giving you
is only my impression from watching them interact when I was with them
continuously for a period of three months. I would say that they are equal,
and that they are treated as equals.
I experienced a moment where there was
a type of celebration in which one of their women, who I believe was about
470 years old, was leaving her assignment as part of an agricultural science
group that developed new types of fruit and things for them to eat, because
she wanted to become pregnant and raise a child.
There was a celebration.
Not all of the women do this, of course. Many of them decide to remain doing
what they are doing in the position of creativity they are in, in terms of a
"job" or "career".
Val: In terms of the concept of a "relationship", at least on the highest
human level that you can conceive of....
Alex: I can tell you this. The men totally honor their women. If a group of
four or more women are walking together down a hallway, men will stop and
move to the side and slightly bow their heads as a greetings. Again, there
may be communication going on, like "hello" or "how are you?", but I didn't
hear it because they are telepathic and nothing was specifically directed to
me.
The only real sounds I heard were associated with their music, and Morenae asking me questions, wanting to know how I felt about certain
things. The very first time I walked in, we left the smaller craft which was
in some type of a hangar and we walked through what I could describe as a
"liquid type of light". There was some resistance, and as you walk through
it you could feel a "wetness" on your face.
The length of this material was
about four or five feet. You could breathe in it. It was like a "liquid" but
it wasn't. When you got to the other end of it, you were in this long
hallway and you were totally dry. He told me that this was a process they
used to disinfect all disease or anything they might have carried with them
from where they had been.
Val: In terms of the idea of
relationships, at least as we consider them,
all the ideas that involve co-dependency and this don't exist in their
society, I presume.
Alex: I have never seen anything like that.
Val: Do men and women walk around in pairs?
Alex: Yes, they do.
Val: Visually, then, there is just a picture of harmonious existence.
Alex: In my perception, that's exactly right. To be perfectly honest with
you, Val, I did not see any evidence of dysfunction whatsoever. In fact, it
was one of the most positive experiences that I have ever had.
Val: Have the Zenetaens ever been under a control system in their history to
where they were "under the gun" from another race or species? Have their
ever been, to your knowledge, critical periods in the development of their
civilization. If so, how could these be characterized?
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More on the history of the Zenetaen Civilization
Alex: Let me answer that question this way. I have that question
written down to ask them, because you gave me a question like that before to
ask them. But, they did tell me that there was a time when they first left
the Lyrae system, after about 21 generations had gone by, where they found
themselves hiding. Again, I don't know all the details, but they were being
hunted by another race. They were living in hollowed-out asteroids and
moons. They were moving all the time.
Val: This is the whole
Zenetaen civilization.
Alex: That's correct, and I do not know how many there were. They were
basically living on craft and having to move around all the time, looking
for a place that was safe. Well, there were beings from the Casseopian
system that helped them, and apparently at that point in time the
Zenetaens
were under a kind of imposed dictatorship, because they were in survival
mode and one person took control of their civilization.
I can remember
Morenae saying that it was imperative that they receive help, because they
may not have evolved out of that, had it gone on any longer. What happened
was that they were taken to two solar systems in the Andromedan galaxy.
We
know them as "star 42" and "star 44".
Star 42 is Zenetae, which is now their
star system. Star 44 is Tishtae. Star 42 has 27 planets around the binary
stars. Star 44 has nine planets, but all of the planets are equal to or
greater than the size of Jupiter. They at this point were all
terraformed.
Val: These beings from the
Casseopian system interacted with them
approximately how long ago in our terms?
Alex: About 2.5 million years ago, but perhaps a little longer.
Val: Has the Zenetaen skin color always been blue?
Alex: No. It was red at one time. Their original forefathers were
red-skinned, and I am told that the Lyraens and
Vegans were red-skinned at
that time.
Val: How did the progression begin to where the
skin color changed to blue?
Alex: Apparently it had to do with a pigmentation change caused by the
ingestion of certain minerals...
Val:
Copper based minerals.
Alex: It was in the food and everything they ate, and
the double sun had an
effect on this too. You have to remember something here. We are talking
about fifth density beings, not third density, so you have the additional
three color spectrums. I always try to take that into account when comparing
them to us. They do literally live in another frequency.
Val: So, were they ever in
third density?
Alex: I am not sure about that.
Val: There seems to be a prevalent assumption among humans that things
"start" at a level of third density existence. But, that's a misnomer,
because...
Alex: No all the races have been or are third density.
Val: So, since the period approximately 2.5 million years go, do you have
any idea of how their civilization has grown and changed since then?
Alex: No, I don't know. All I know is where they are now because that's the
only way I know them. That would be a question I would have to ask them.
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General Queries on Submitted Questions
Val: Now, at one point in time I had asked you whether the
Zenetaens were
aware of another group from the Andromedan system called the
Inextrians, and
you indicated that this group was from a star called Mirach.
Alex: Yes, Mirach is the central sun for that system. There are, if I
remember this correctly, 919 other suns that revolve around Mirach,
including stars we don't even see.
Val: Stars that exist on other frequency levels.
Alex: That's correct. I believe approximately 130 of those 919 suns have
inhabited planetary systems. The Inextrians come from one of those 130.
There are two other groups from that group of 130 that have been here to
Earth before.
Val: How about the civilization from
Koldas, the Koldasians that were
involved in the South African case around 1960. Apparently, according to a
question I received from Chicago, the Koldasians were involved in something
called "Operation Fireball" which parallels some of the things going on
today that are connected to the
HAARP program, under which methane is
deliberately being injected into Earths atmosphere and an attempt is being
made to ignite it.
Alex: They're going to "light up" the atmosphere and burn it. That is a
probability.
Val: It makes you wonder how many people in the Department of the Navy,
E-Systems and Raytheon are on Prozac.
Alex: Let me put it this way, getting back to the subject of the
Koldasians.
My experience with the Zenetaens, as far as their description of other races
is concerned, is that they do not give me a "name", per se, unless they had
an Earth name that we would recognize or know. But, if there was no name,
they would always use a symbol.
Now, I do not know that any of the symbols
that I have written down apply to what you call the Kodasians, as they know
them. I simply don't know that. They have always referred to the other races
by referring to the name of the main star concerned with their location. I
don't know the name Koldasians or Koldas.
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Giza Triangular Ratios Related to the Orion Group
Val: Now, we have reviewed some of these questions which originated in
Chicago and New York, and some of them you indicated that you had no
information about, so we'll skip those and move on.
Now, one question
concerned the communication via archetypal holographs and symbols and the
meaning gleaned by the Zenetaens relative to the 9:11 and 7:11
height-to-base ratios embodied in the Giza pyramid, which you indicated had
to do with the Orion group, and that the significance holographically of the
triangle or triad symbol was concerned with Orion.
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Mathematical Sequences, Synchronicity and Subjective Reality Creation
Alex: Yes. Now, they have a great respect for mathematics and numbers.
Morenae has always said that they always pay attention to what we know as
"numbers". They attend to the physics of everything, including tones, sounds
and numerical sequences.
He has always told me that numbers are maps, and
one of the things that we personally do now in our lives is that we watch
that numerical sequences that come up in our lives. It seems that as long as
we recognize specific numbers that come up in things that we are doing, like
in phone numbers, bills, addresses, license plates, then we know we're on
the right track.
Val: Just by the fact that certain mathematical sequences, such as triplets
(111,222,333,etc) are noticed....
Alex: Exactly, and everyone resonates to a tone or frequency. If you "stay
within the path of your tone" then you are in effect "moving along your
frequency.".
Val: Well, then, "moving along one's frequency" would imply more consistent
perception of synchronicity, which is historically connected with the more
consistent perception of numerical sequences and number sets.
Alex: Yes. These sequences are in effect telling you that you are staying in
consistency.
Val: This relates to the Law of Consistency that the
Zenetaens refer to. Are
there other telltale signs relative to adherence to consistency other than
the more frequent perception of numerical sequences?
Alex: I would think so. Other factors are the degree of awareness of your
own thoughts and what is going on around you. I think it's just overall
perception of who one is. But as far as trying to create and predict one's
future, and I did not specifically learn this from Morenae or Vissaeus, when
I start to create something and come up with an idea, what I do is apply a
numerical set of numbers to that creation.
Then, when I see those numbers
become evident around me, I will immediately associate whatever is going on
in my life with that creation. I then move toward that numerical sequence or
number.
Val: How do you assign a number, numbers or numerical sequences to a
specific idea? Can you give an example?
Alex: At one time there was a very big thing that was coming into our lives,
and we really wanted to create it. In my mind, when I was meditating on it,
creating it and seeing the outcome of it, I assigned numbers 18, 19, 20, 21
and 22 to the creation. Any one of those numbers.
Val: Why those numbers?
Alex: I don't know why. It is something that I just started doing in 1985
when they came back.
Val: So, in effect, what you have discovered is that when numbers that you
intuitively assign to a certain process or creation appear around you, that
the perception of these numbers lends itself to the support of the creation
you are manifesting?
Alex: Yes, and I absolutely pay attention to everything that is going on.
When this happens, I will stop whatever I am doing in the moment and reflect
on what is going on in my life, so that I don't miss an opportunity to move
in the right direction towards that creation. Now, I don't know if this
process is something they gave me in terms of a telepathic communication and
it just became part of the process within me, but the Zenetaens follow
number-values, totally, and consider them to be "maps."
Val: Maps leading toward what? Toward understanding of the process of
creation and manifestation?
Alex: I think so, yes. Your own creations.
Val: Interesting. Now, here's another question. Has this race from
Andromeda
ever give a description, scientific or other wise, of Hale-Bopp?
Alex: Everything I know about Hale-Bopp I have already put out there, and I
have more questions about Hale-Bopp to ask them that are at the top of the
list. I wish I had something new to tell you.
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More on the Draconian Civilization
Val: Another question that has been put to me to ask you is the following.
If withholding love leads a race to regression and devolution, due to the
absence of expressed emotion, then why is it that the Alpha Draconians are
two billion years old and have not yet become extinct? Second, what is the
average life expectancy of the Draco?
Alex: The average life span of the
Draconians extends from 1,800 to 4,100
years of age. The ones that live as long as 4,100 years are the royal line
of the Draconians.
Val: The winged Ciakars.
Alex: Yes, because their genetics have been kept totally intact. Now, as far
as them being regressive, yes they are, but what is interesting,
Val, is
that they are not regressive with respect to their own people, only against
other races. So, what you've got is that you have this race of beings that
are very regressive toward other races other than their own.
Val: It sounds like a super-model of imperialism.
Alex: They don't turn on their own people and have continued to evolve
within their own race.
Val: One of the recent themes in orthodox media, especially movies, is that
reptilian species have a penchant for pituitary and adrenal type substances,
and that they try and get these substances any way they can, even to the
extent of ripping somebody's brain out of their head in order to acquire
these hormones.
Alex: Well, these hormones, in essence, hold emotion. The brain and spinal
fluids hold emotion. It is what nourishes the nervous system and the brain.
Val: So, is this media portrayal have any accuracy at all? Do
reptilian
humanoids have to supplement their own internal production of adrenal
hormones from outside sources? If so, what does this contribute to them
physiologically? If this process does exist, as has been inferred before, is
it a function of a need or just as cosmic joyride for them?
Alex: Well, they don't make the same type of spinal fluid as humans do. As
far as their physical needs, I don't know. I do know that they get a "rush"
from hormones from other species that have been in terror. For example, if
they capture a human being, they will not usually kill the person right
away. What they usually do is terrify them as much as possible in order to
jack up the level of emotion and hormones. Then, when they consume the
physical body of that psychologically terrorized being, not only are they
feeding themselves but the hormones impart a physiological and psychological
"rush" which they enjoy. It's essentially a "drug high" for them.
Val: So, they couldn't use hormones from animals, because they don't have
the emotional range of embodied spiritual entities...
Alex. Cattle don't have the extremes of emotions we have. They do have
emotions, but the more extreme the emotions, the "higher the high" when the
substances generated are consumed by
the reptilians.
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Hale-Bopp Draconians Might Visit The United States First
(Because The U.S. Military Will Attack Perceived Aggressors)
Val: We had discussed before the subject of
the
Hale-Bopp complex in terms
of the assessment that part of the complex consisted of "protocol ships"
from the Orion Group. Relative to this planet, do you have any information
on probabilities of where they will come first?
Alex: They will come to the United States first.
Val: Why?
Alex: Because our military will challenge and attack them. So, they will be
here first, and then move to Russia. It's a foregone conclusion that they
will be here first.
Val: So, again, another aspect of this submitted question is: what should
one do when encountering these beings from Alpha Draconis? Are there details
on precise protocols as you gave relative to peaceful beings?
Alex: I have a protocol for the
Alpha Draconians. Run away.
Val: That's pretty precise.
Alex: That's all I know, is to stay away from them. There is literally no
way to challenge them. It's suicide, to be perfectly honest with you. If
they are in the mode where they want to do you harm, it's going to happen.
The best thing is to avoid them at all costs. You have to remember, Val,
that the Alpha Draconians, the Ciakar in particular, if they come down here,
are going to come out of their huge craft and they are going to look like
dinosaurs.
Val: Do you consider embarkation by reptoids a part of the
Hale-Bopp
scenario?
Alex: I don't believe that there are any
Ciakar on Hale-Bopp.
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Who's Staffing the Hale-Bopp Complex?
Val: What or whom do you feel is on
Hale-Bopp?
Alex: I think they are staffed by
warrior-class reptilian, Draconians that
are seven to ten feet tall that have the stubby tail. They are skinnier than
the others and considered the warrior class of the reptilian hierarchy.
Val: Why do you feel that Sirius B humanoids and the
Alpha Draconians are
the ones associated with Hale-Bopp?
Alex: The
Andromedans have said that Hale-Bopp is a protocol ship from the
Orion Group, and that it contains reptilians in cryogenic stasis.
Val: How exciting...
Alex: They are waking up as we speak, I'm sure.
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The Hale-Bopp Complex as an Incredible Control Scenario
Val: There was one aspect of the
Sheldon Nidle paradigm which is plausible
and perhaps the case, and that is that radio frequency messages from the
Hale-Bopp complex have been received by governments, and I would guess this
is on your "ask list" to try and confirm that with the Andromedans. I was
informed that the messages contained both a greeting, of sorts, and a
warning.
The warning said essentially, "do not bother to try and attack us
with your thousand-year-old weapons or we will obliterate you." Now, with
the U.S. military setting up hundreds of these little complexes in the
boondocks around the United States with missiles and high-tech electronic
equipment, obviously ready to shoot something down from above, this is a
little worrying.
Alex: Yes, it is. At this point I cannot confirm that this is true. I will
say this, however. If you were informed correctly about the content of the
message received by the governments, then we are looking at an incredible
control mechanism on its way here.
Val: Well, one would presume a control drama with the
Draconians on the way.
Alex: Yes, it would be true with any of the
regressive groups. From what Morenae has said, that is exactly what these groups do. They find a planet
inhabited by a race less evolved and technically competent, and they conquer
it by whatever means. One of the first things they do is "put it down". They
try and make you feel inferior.
Val: I guess at this point an overall holistic question relative to this
whole Hale-Bopp scenario would be, why now?
Alex: I have no idea.
Val: Considering the assumed dimensional type shifting, would it be logical
to assume that someone desiring to assume control would try it now, rather
than wait until later when it might not be possible? Could it be that they
are fully aware of the Andromedan Council edict of "all
ET's out" by 2003
and are ignoring it?
Alex: Yes, I believe they are aware of it and are ignoring it, because both
Morenae and Vissaeus have both mentioned about sitting down at the
Council
with representatives from the Orion Group and Sirius B. I am not sure the
Draconians were there, but I am sure they know about the edict.
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Hale-Bopp Draconians Possibly a Rogue Group
Val: So, with reference to
Hale-Bopp, we are in essence talking about a
rogue group of reptilians.
Alex: Yes, I would think, or it is a decision by an entire race of
reptilians to act independently. No one speaks for the
Draconians. No one.
They could also be coming here and actually be on their way to somewhere
else.
Val: Then, in that case, we would be just assuming that they would be
impacting the civilization here because they are coming in this direction.
Alex: Well, they may come and attempt to do their "thing" and move on to
some other part of the sector to continue doing what they're doing. They are
probably not coming in this direction solely to "get us". There is a much
bigger picture here that is all about control of this sector of space. There
are 21 other solar systems in this sector with planets who have
civilizations in basically the same boat we are in here on Earth. So, we are
part of whatever it is but it is not just about us.
Val: Well, if this
rogue group comes in here and takes marginal notice of
the fact that there are a dozen or so thousand-mile-wide Andromedan Council
ships parked in this solar system, like they are at present...
Alex: It could be that they will just fly by and not attempt anything.
Between you and me, that's truly what my heart wants.
Val: Well, this rogue group would potentially be in contact with reputed
groups that are here and would know that they are under the gun and at an
impasse with the military industrial complex which has presumably been
holding them off while trying to acquire technology for a defense...?
Alex: I think the regressives know exactly where we are on a technical
level, and I don't they are concerned about all of that in any way. But,
they would be concerned with other races in the solar system, like the
Andromedan Council, who are sitting there and projecting the message
"leave
Earth alone". The other factor is that those reptoids
inside the Earth would
probably have the chance to leave here. I don't know how that will happen,
but I think they will have an opportunity to leave here voluntarily, and if
the Hale-Bopp regressives come in here and try to be aggressive with us, I
think their chance of leaving here peacefully, in the face of the
Andromedans, would be completely over with.
Val: In other words, the
rogue reptilians would be challenged by the Andromedan Council fleet now in the solar system and all we might see is a
big "light show"
in the sky as they battle it out.
Alex: Right. I would not at all be surprised by that. That kind of scenario
has been foretold by many individuals, even Apolloneus of Tyana, who spoke
of "wars in heaven" in 79 AD. The proverbial 'war in heaven'.
Val: Do you view the alignment of planets in May 2000 has having any effect
on this system?
Alex: They have only made reference to how much of a pole shift we would
have.
Val: So, the Andromedans have never mentioned any significance relative to
5/5/2000 or any planetary alignments at any specific timing?
Alex: No.
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Our Main Sun Already Beginning Pole Shift
Val: Now, we were talking about
HAARP at one particular time and the
situation with the weather patterns, and you mentioned that part of the
collective problem with weather patterns is that both the magnetic poles of
the earth are shifting and that also the poles on the main sun are beginning
to shift.
Alex: Yes, it is.
Val: If this in fact is the case, is it flipping from top-down or bottom-up?
Alex: If you are looking at the sun in terms of North-South-East-West, what
you are seeing is that the South is moving Westerly. The South is rising up
and the North is going East. It's rolling towards us, but at an angle, and
the magnetic field of the Earth, and in fact all the planets in the solar
system, are responding to this process.
Val: We have a second smaller sun that is behind the main sun that we
normally see. Is the shifting of the main sun affecting the other one?
Alex: I don't know.
Val: That might be a question to go on the list.
Alex: I know the second sun is denser, heavier and not as hollow as the sun
we see.
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The Hale-Bopp Companion
Val: Another question which was submitted is as follows: In view of the
probable scenarios forthcoming in February-March 1997 and the arrival of
Hale-Bopp, if in fact the companion to HB is larger in mass than
Earth, will
that create mass gravitational effects on Earth with geological
consequences?
Alex: No, it would not, because it is a craft, not a planet. It generates
and controls its own force field, and the extent of it, from within. It is
different than when you are dealing with a solid mass. It has an energy
field which can be manipulated. It is totally controlled. The only way a
ship of that size could cause a problem is if they specifically wanted it to
cause a problem.
Val: Now, when we are looking at the
HB complex, I was informed by a friend
who actually went out there out-of-body and looked at it, and he said that
he saw a long tubelike propulsion unit with four pie-shaped components,
presumably the occupied areas, attached to it. If you looked at it from the
end it would seem to be a cross-shape in the middle of a circle. What about
the companion?
Alex: All I know about the
companion is that it came out of a star system in
the constellation Cancer. That's all I know, but if you remember when I
first started talking about Hale-Bopp in 1995, the Andromedans had said that
another craft was on its way from the constellation Cancer and would join
it. That was two years ago, and here it is.
Val: Has there ever been any kind of discussion that involves what part of
the HB structure will go where when it comes into this system?
Alex: The only thing that Morenae has said specifically was that two of the
three "moons" in the tail of HB, once it passed us, would go into an orbit
around Mercury. He then said, "then your governments will need to tell you
that they are here."
Val: Why? Nobody here can see
Mercury anyway. Why would the government feel
a compelling need to tell the public about this?
Alex: I don't know.
Morenae did not give me any more than that, and maybe
that was for my safety, or maybe it was because the information would
tip-off others to the plans of the Andromedans. So, I don't know why, and I
don't know if that has changed or not.
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Potential Hale-Bopp Tail Debris Impact on Earth
Val: Another question that was submitted to me is as follows:
"There is a
rumor that the northern hemisphere may be actually impacted by some sort of
projectiles coming from HB. Is that correct, and if so, what can we do to
protect ourselves. Is that why the military has built so many underground
facilities?"
Alex: Well, my understanding is that it won't be projectiles, as we
understand it, but simply debris from its "tail" that may impinge on the
planet, because it is dragging along some natural material along with it. It
is a small probability. The military has build the underground bases
primarily with the thought of a pole-shift in mind.
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An Andromedan View of the Soul
Val: Another submitted question:
"If souls can be removed from humans in
about four seconds, then what is the true nature of Soul/Spirit and what we
call God?"
Alex: You know, that's a good question, and I don't know that I know the
answer, but I will tell you this. Once I asked Vissaeus about what they
teach their children about the concept of Soul and true essence, and this
was the response he gave me about that:
"We are perceivers. We are an
awareness. We are not objects and we have no solidity. We are boundless. The
world of objects and solidity is a way for making our passage through our
densities convenient. It is only a description that was created to help us.
We forget that the description is only a description and thus, we have
learned not to entrap the totality of ourselves in a vicious circle of
physicality from which few rarely emerge in a lifetime."
Val: There's one last submitted question here:
"Is there any cosmic
intelligence that monitors and keeps balance in the Universe, or are we
destined to be controlled by the bigger guy with bigger and better
technology."
Well, I can answer this one. The cosmic intelligence this
person is talking about is in fact the Universe itself which is
self-reflective in nature, self-balancing, homeostatic and itself conscious.
The second part of the question is unfortunately from the Darwinian
perspective, in that it presupposes an ongoing situation preoccupied with
technology, when in fact technology is always supplanted by consciousness
itself. Would you say those are fair and accurate answers?
Alex: Yes. In addition, during the earlier stages of development,
control by
technology is only possible if we allow it to happen.
Val: Technology itself is a limited material scenario and application of
manifested creation which effectively replaces the efficient application of
consciousness.
Alex: I wanted to share something else I have on the brain from
Vissaeus:
"The brain does not create consciousness, but rather it is
consciousness
that creates the appearance of the brain, matter, space and time as all
things are being interpreted as a physical reality."
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